Apollo Health Street February 15, 2007
Posted by Pallav Sharda in : Healthcare, Technology , trackbackThe Apollo Hospitals Group is the single largest private hospital group in Asia. HealthStreet is a healthcare service spinoff from Apollo, focusing on BPO and IT services in healthcare domain.
The BPO services is aimed at US customers. Of course, off shoring non-core health information management activities (medical transcription, coding, revenue cycle management and claims processing) is a big industry now.
The IT services are around development, implementation and QA/QC testing. They also have a Hospital Information System product called LIFELINE (only for sale in Asia). I wish they had list of current customers of LIFELINE. In-keeping with the growing premature craze of Telemedicine in India, they showcase MedIntegra, a suite of Telemedicine-related applications.
Note: As obvious from the comment avalanche below, there is some personal mud-slinging going on between some readers. It’s sad to see how anonymity will make people abuse their right to free speech. Please note that none of the comments below are approved or supported by us in any way (except the ones left by eIndia author himself).
Folks, please keep the discussion about AHSL products, not employees
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I have worked for HealthStreet for almost a year in Senior Management Position.
Needless to say, all people who along with me resigned would vouch for the kind of corrupt practices and intents that the company is engaged in.
The company is a strict no for any sane person. However if you revel to waste your time and indulge in all sorts of unethical (READ corrupt) practices, this is a god-send paradise.
All, including their Top Management is simply interested in making hay while the US 8 Mn funding is there from the VC’s.
Top Management (including Apollo’s Laala’s) have a pure selfish interest is in either doing an IPO (if they can fool the ibankers and the general public of India) or selling the biz to a top notch MNC who is desperate to setup an offshore center in India
Dear Truth_Sayer,
Thanks for your insight. At some level, I can understand your frustration and appreciate your candid response to my post.
Your comment is yet another proof that the Indian economy is a uncontrolled, almost unmanageable boom. There is too much money chasing too few companies.
Needless to say, what goes up, comes down. I’m still intrigued by the LifeLine and MedIntegra products; seems to me that they are premature for Indian market. Has there been any sale for these? If you have thoughts around this, feel free to write back. Thanks,
eIndia.
Dear Truth_Sayer,
Can you give any more feedback or comments regarding Apollo Health Street? Why are they corrupt? What practices do you refer to?
Is AHS in the process of going public?
Can you name any senoir Management that you referred to as corrupt?
What is US 8 Mn funding ?
What are VC’s?
What are Apollo’s Laala’s?
These comments are untrue - We are no laalas
The comments by Mr Sehgal (who is the current CEO) sums it all.
Reality bites, at the end of the day.
Well to respond to some of the comments asking clarifications, here are the answers:
1.) Their IT products haven’t been successfull at all and to my understanding were sold off to other Heathcare Co’s (who have lamented their decision to buy these products).
2.) Corruption: I can give several examples right from Kickbacks from vendors to kickbacks to customer’s or business partners to swing business deals for them.
3.)What will you call a company Top Management hell bent on increasing revenues (including recordding an unbooked sales etc)at any cost just to increase their Fat Pay packets (I guess in US such co’s and their managements are routinely rebuked and punished: case of Enron comes to my mind)
4.) Senior Management: Go to their website, to the link of Top Management, All right from MD, CEO, COO,Sr VP’s to VP’s have been involved in these practices.
5.) US 8 Mn funding is the funding that this firm received (used their contacts to make fool of a Top Bracket I-Bank) to do some acqusitions in US.
6.) VC’: Venture Capitalists
7.) Laala’s: Refers to Owners in Hindi (National Language of India). In India these laala’s (fortunately/unfortunately) control majority of the businesses and have been doing the businesses without adequate financial and governance control for ages!!!
Dear Truth_Sayer,
Thanks for the further clarification. I’m in the Healthcare IT profession (US based), and your comment helps demystify some of the undue awe I had for the claims made by Indian companies around HIT products.
I guess you are in some sort of Healthcare consulting business. AHS aside, what are your thoughts about the telemedicine craze in India. I’d be interested in your thoughts.
~eIndia Moderator
is anyone at this company related to Humana? I have been getting letters from this company wanting information about my healthcare business stating that they are from Humana Health care. I have tried to email them at the provided email address and it comes back to me as no such address exists.
kelco
Dear Mr. Truth Sayer,
I totally disapprove your negative and malicious comments about a company that I have personally worked for and a company that I adore till date. I worked for Apollo Health Street Ltd. for a period of 9 months and since then have moved to consulting in one of the big 4 companies, and my stint at AHSL really helped me to hone my skills for my career ahead. I never found this company to do what you are accusing it of doing and either you represent one of their competitor firms or are full of negativity and only prove that the company did not at all lose by your resignation.
AHSL is one of the largest medical offshore companies and is run by a young and dynamic senior management team that has one of the best talents in the industry with all people coming from B Schools like ISB, Yale, IIM A, IIM B, IIM C, IIM L and so on. And dont tell me that not one but all these business schools teach their students to be dishonest, infact I think you are being dishonest by spreading such lies about my ex-company.
Jai Hind
Yeah Nitin, I know you were the chamcha of Apollo Seior Management including Divya Sehgal.
My experience goes much more than your limited 9 months dude.
Good to know that you also have left.Exactly proves my point that good guys never stick around with this firm.
If you were so much enthused why didnt you stick with the firm?
Talk about IIM guys good ethical standards well every body knows about the honest standards of couple of recent cases in news paper of IIM guys befuddling money.
Well in the end mate everyone is entitled to their own opinion, only time will tell whether you are true or my understanding is correct
Take Care oh yeah Jai Hind!!!!
Dear Nitin
Let me tell you certain facts of business on which you and Truth Sayer are debating. The business is governed by the Top Bosses in Family owned businesses in India. Hence professionals like you or Truth Sayer dont even matter in the end to the firm.
Hence whether you or truth_sayer were with the firm or not would not matter.
As far as the other governance related issues are concerned, Apollo Health Street is no different from other family owned businesses in India. All of them are similar, if not same, in nature of management controls.
In my experience, I have never come across a totally professional firm run by family owned businesses in India.
Any ways I agree to most, if not alll of the assertions of Truth Sayer from a general point of view for family owned businesses in India.
And you talk of reputed business schools doesn’t hold any merit. In US as well as in India there are umpteen cases of Management from these schools being involved in some very big scandals.
Dear Mr Chatwal and Truth Sayer (Real Papaji!!), thanks for your wonderful insight into the world of business. Just to let you know in India the majority of the businesses are family run. Reliance? Tatas? Wipro? Mittal Steel?, Singhania? Bombay Dyeing? - so your logic that family run business are houses of corruption does not hold good. These are family owned but run by a professional team and are one of the best managed businesses. Hence your family owned business view point is nothing but crap.
Your strategy of using multiple big names like Divya and Chatwal does not seem to be working as we have nailed on the correct identity.
Further we do understand that you were removed from Apollo Health Street due to issues of immorality but why do u wish to ****edited out by eIndia****?
Jai Hind
I precisely understand your situation dude’s. Btw who is this papaji?
Well your have ****edited out by eIndia****…..do tell me what kind of immorality was I removed from Health Street…. will want to know that from the horses mouth……
Well just goes to prove how down can Apollo’s Top Management go to and Why not when you have guilt brimming right up to your nose, then its difficult to control it.
Do a proper vomit mate!!!!
Take Care oh yeah Jai Hind
Keep on nailing the Real Papaji…. I now know who it is …… good show dude’s pick one of your own types and fight.
Just proves what kind of brainless guys you people were in your consult days, currently are at AHS and will always be in future.
I am leading this, you are following it mate’s; oh I m loving this:D
Hi Sush (aka Haryana boy)
Leave them yaar, these guys will never learn. They have shown their colours (Mr ST & Mr NA) by faking identity & posting false messages to prevent the bad name they have earned for their firm.
Guys go on….. u r wonderful….. u r CIO is renowned as a thief in IT Industry, u urselves are not trusted by any clients of yours to give any repeat business, Humana took the business from u:D(i.e why u went for the inorganic route!!!) and your talk of Tatas, reliance etc…. buddies first go and work their and know the culture and then come and talk.
Thats why I always say consultants (esp from Mck & Deloitte) make a very bad choice of business managers. Empty headed, twenty thousand footheaded presentation style ideas without any knowledge of market reality.
Ominous Combination
Take Care or Jai Hind
We are extremely sorry for our communications and faking the identity of true Nitin Kakkar.
We were under erroneous impression of the identity of Truth_Sayer.
We also take back our arguments on other things.
We understand that we are asses of first order and have ruined the brand names of prestigious B Schools like ISB, Yale & IIM’s by following the sort of practices which we do at Apollo.
Jai Hind (We feel sorry to be part of India as we are big blot on India’s name)
Hi True Papaji,
As for your assertion that you are enjoying the show and leading it, I would like to say:
1) Even the horse in front of a chariot feels that he is driving the chariot, while it is not the horse but the charioteer who is driving the chariot. Same is the case here, you might feel you are leading the show, while it is being driven by someone else
2) ****edited out by eIndia**** Out in the open you surely do seem to be jumping quite a lot but that only adds to the spice of your immorality.
Please don’t think ur lies do at all confuse us. We have nailed the real Papaji and now since his ****edited out by eIndia****
First feel proud of the place that you work in and then think of bigger things like feeling the pride for the nation.
Jai Hind!!
Oh let me take the fakesters from Apollo on their comments:
1.) So you agree that whoever I am, I am a horse. Therefore only asses work in Apollo Health Street. Horses never stick around for horses are too smart and understand what Apollo Health Street is all about
2.) You are talking about someone else’s immorality: consider this…. your CIO is a known Corrupt individual taking kick backs, you people on your own do the same to your customers and oh Health Street Head HR (Mr PS) Teases a Girl and pushes his hand under the skirt of ( M/s V G am not expanding name of the poor girl!!!) and the AVP operations (mr V S) Teases the VANCI instructor (M/s S N) in a drunk state in office and when its complaint goes to you folks you say ” If her figure is so sexy, what else will happen”.
Shame on you and your morality.
You have lost business ethics and all other moral ethics. So who is immoral…. bechara Nitin Kakkar (Who is being made a scape goat by Mr NA , Mr ST, Mr DS, the COO-BPO, the VP-BD & the current CEO of Health Street).
E-India Moderator, May I request you to publish all this in front of your website and all other leading communication media.
Let these guys reality be known at least in the public in USA, Europe & India. Only then will they learn their lessons
Take Care oh yes Jai Hind!!!
Truth_Sayer , we know who u are.
Truth_Sayer and Nitin Kakkar are one and the same…
ho gayi bolti bandh!!
Awanu Awanu sir…. they are same……randi sir…. beat him…..will appreciate it.
But one thing is also true Sree & Namit, all know what extent you can go to…..morally wrong people,you reserve best salary hikes for people who can suck you the best, drink out with you.
Also, the way you do annual performane appraisals is fantastic, you reserve it for the suckers, then do for rest.
Well when basics are corrupt, this is bound to happen.
Also u routinely overcharge your clients for business, have never seen such a practice in any other BPO’s that I worked for and am currently working on
See what mess you have gotten into with another gruntled employee. I can bet you dadas, there are hajjaar other people ready to fuck your assess much worse than this one!!!!
That is what I am saying from the beginning Fan…. these guys have no moral ethics….and when the truth is hitting them in public domain, they are acting like a lizard whose tail has been burnt;D
Waise how r u doing Sir? Where r u these days?
Take Care
Are Dr Saab,
I am there in Hyd only…….where r u?
In Silicon city of India
Guys,
Lets meet sometime this weekend. Leave these Apollo Guys discussion, you know saalon ki repute…. WIPRO management & GE Management knows them the best…. they still rue those days when they got fooled by these guys.
****edited out by eIndia****
Namaskara Sir’s of Apollo Health Street.
eIndia, thanks for providing a forum for all of us to expose these crooks from Apollo Health Street. Hope u can advise your connections in US in whatever capacity you are to not to get into deals with such shady firms any more!!!
Bechara Nitin Kakkar!!
Real Papaji atleast learn to lie skillfully! Arrey bhayee kis baat ka bechara ha woh?
First and foremost many of our competitor firms are jealous of us and are hence hiring such people of spreading such malicious lies about one of the best reputed companies in the industry.
AHSL has always believed in delivering high quality service to its clients and that is why serves the best payors and providers in US and has one of the most satisfied customers in this highly competitive field.
People as true Papaji come and go like rain, but a building with strong foundations like AHSL remain.
As for all other aspirants please email your queries to info@apollohealthstreet.com and come and be a winner and not a loser like the real papaji who can only sit and suck gannas!!
And once more:
Jai Hind (With pride unlike the yeah of Real Papaji!!)
Yes Yes, go and speak to Mr Phil Hehir and Kara of Humana,Suresh Vaswani of WIPRO Infotech, Vishal Wanchoo of G E Healthcare, Ingenix folks, M/s Jennifer Euting of CIGNA healthcare about their quality of customer service.
Customers always speak of truth and nothing else. Right Sree & Namit!!!!
Yes, please go and speak to them, who has stopped you? On all the doors you will find the same answer, AHSL is the best. World is not made on malicious thoughts, cunning ideas and immoral activities but on reality. In your heart you also know about the high standards at AHSL which you were not able to meet, but why such lies? Why such hatred? Why such drama?
Jai Hind!! (With Pride)
Mr Sehgal, Mr Agarwal & Mr Tayi……AHSL standards are known to each of the employees who work for them. Well your repeated attempt to mask behind Nitin’s name and say that you hve high standards and all sums it all!!!! That there is something u r trying to prove….also on Truth_sayer’s all examples, there is not a single point u v been able to rebuff……which proves that all that is true (including the character of some of your top management….)….
Will tell you one thing in life……. Jaisa Karoge waisa bharoge and believe me the world is very small…. the way you people have behaved with your employees and are doing even right now… stop it before its too late for you folks to even hve the right to say sorry!!! Just by having fancy corporate titles is not enough…. as management graduates from reputed schools the first thing they should have taught you is ethics and humanity…. which I believe is truly lacking in you folks!!!!
As I have said to Sush, will tell you as well Fan, leave these guys alone. Look at how they have gotten after one of their employees trying only to prove that its him…. even if that is the case then what the FXXX man…. you people are not even able to defend yourself against all the facts which I & others have given here as a case in point.
Do you people ever look into a glass mirror and reflect what you are doing in life? What would you feel if someone else treated you like you treat people around you?
Well why am i saying and wasting my time on these guys…. they have no conscience… that is why a lot of us left this organization in first place…. you folks will never ever want to understand this and will never do this.
Only God can help you now….. and yes I expect few further dirty comments from you again in the afternoon when you would have gotten up from your slumber.
Fan, Sush, Dr Saab, lets not waste any further time on these spineless folks.
Saare Jahaan se Achcha Hindustan Hamaara (with pride you cant even feel, you top management donkeys from Apollo!!! coz u never have been part of India, all you know is Amercan Accent Style English speaking and giving hollow ideas!!!!)
Nitin, you are the biggest fool we have ever seen. Once you log in as Truth_Sayer and blurt crap….then you log in as Nitin Kakkar, IIM B, trying to save your skin.
And please stop using IIM B. You don’t sound like a product of that great institution. No wonder you got kicked out of so many places.
Sirs, as I stated, u people cannot rectify urself. So whats the point of blabbering….neways I only expect this kind of indecent responses…..oye Sush, please stop responding to them….buddy… these guys brains are fatter than the buffaloes in your villages in Haryana or elsewhere in world!!!
And regarding getting kicked out of many places sir, ever since I left Health Street, my career prospects have only brightened… whereas people like you will always feel jealous coz even after spending 10+ years in your professional life you have remained an ass of top order. No wonder only Health Street is your employer of Choice!!!!!
Vallakam….. bhai Truth_Sayer you have lit my heart with joy… u v managed to do what I or other ex-employees of AHS could not do….Sree & Namit…. u r exposed like nething on this site by OOPS I was almost about to blurt out!… oh in your understanding Nitin Kakkar…..bada mazzaa aah raha hai yaar….lets catch up sometime over a Biryani at Vamsi….. next time. All my company top bosses are amused to see this and so are CIGNA and HUMANA folks…… lets get INGENIX folks to see this as well…..and other Provider clients…..
Bechara Nitin !!!!!!! Kahen ka bechara???
Just to let you couple of jokers know that despite writing more than 30 odd comments you all were not able to give one valid reasoning in ur statements. They were all assertions or false claims stating AHSL is this and that but no proofs and logic.
The only logic about family owned business was put to crap.
The other logic of immorality issues that was brought up by you were nothing but lies. The only major immorality issue that I remember was when the Real Papaji was caught having sex ****edited out by eIndia**** in backyard of the AHSL building for which he was fired instantly.
At AHSL we prescreen our employees quite thoroughly and hence such cases are rare though few loony papajis do turn up.
Actually I feel quite sad when I have to write about my ex colleagues at AHSL in such a way, but I cannot tolerate anyone lying about my company and giving it a bad name, and especially those people who have contributed nothing to the organization but only sapped it.
Guys get above your narrow horizon, dont feel jealous about AHSL. If AHSL does well then India does well. If India does well then you do well. That is the spirit of nationalism and patriotism I wish to inculcate in all my colleagues. Please improve ur narrow vision.
Garv se kaho Jai Hind
Yes Sree & Namit I also want to say Jai Hind with Garv but the sex part is a little wrong in details, I & also other employees including Riju thought (with a FIR in Jubilee Hills Station) that the prime accused were a VP - Payer - BD and SVP- Operations of AHSPL, and it was just not a case of sex, it was a case of Rape for which the girl was thrown out with dire consequences if she opened her mouth.
Garv Se Kaho Jai Hind
Bhai these are the identities here:
Nitin Kakkar, IIMB = Sreeram Tayi, Namit Agarwal & Divya Sehgal, the Top Management of AHSL who have done a lot of immoral things at AHSL and in their past at reputed firms like Mckinsey, Deloitte, Citibank IT and hence were chucked from there, opened up their business in New Delhi with another Mckinsey flunkee, sold that business to Apollo and thus formed AHSL
Another_Fan_of_Apollo_Health_Street = An ex employee who is giving facts about AHSL
Truth_Sayer = An ex employee who started exposing the Top Management of AHSL. Since he knows quite a lot details about these guys and his morals could not let him from blowing the whistle, these guys are after his life trying to identify him
Nitin Kakkar, IIMB = Another ex employee of AHSL, whose name is being scapegoated by these suckers from AHSL to divert the attention from the real issue (which is the immoral and unethical nature of the firm, its owners and its Top Management)
Haryana_ka_chora= Your Truly, a friend of Truth_Sayer & fan and determined to bash these guys in their efforts to divert the issue.
One more Thing:
Garv Se Kaho Jay Hind!!
Abe Sush
Leave them dude….. enuff of indecent exposure has been done about AHSL employees.
Only proves one thing, NOT TO WORK FOR A FIRM LIKE AHSL ever in one’s professional life
Hi that was a real Indecent Proposal Dude.
Garv se kaho I am a AHSLian!!!!!!!!!!!. AHSL is the best company to work, the most professional company in the world and if given a second choice I would love to join back the company.
Garv se kaho Jai HInd
Sree dada
Kyon meri zubaan khulwaate ho, tu to mere baad paida hua company mein. Agar mein saari baate bataaon na to dada AHSL ki ****edited out by eIndia****…….GALI GALI mein shor hai AHSL aur uski management Chor Hai !!! (in benefit for your esteemed customers, In every nook and corner it is a known fact that AHSL is a thief firm along with its corrupt & criminal management )
I cannot but fully agree with other Sri…. here…..and with Truth_Sayer/Real Papji (?)
Et Tu RP!!!!
But dont worry I am not a fool to come in the words of Bechara Nitin Kakkar!!!!
The fact still remains that despite putting up so many false IDs, such lies, hatred, you have not been able to give one justified allegation against AHSL. Accept that despite all your frustrations we have been able to preserve the core of our company and its strong brand names. You all are criminals and should be put in Tihar Jail!! for committing such fraud against a company that gave your bread and butter to you and what do you all give in return - A bad name. Have some shame for trying to try and run an unsuccessful false campaign against such a good firm.
Garv Se Kaho Jai Hind
Aaj ka naara hai, Apollo Pyara hai
Bhai Truth_sayer, you were right on spot on these guys, they will never
Truth_sayer, you are bang on target on reading these guys from Top Management from AHSL, they are beyond reform.
I also now wish the same, God only save you.
All right, I can see the emotions running wild here. Inspite of what everyone thinks of AHSL, I’d be editing out and un-approving a lot these comments to take out the profanity.
Folks, try to put across your thoughts without using inappropriate language…Lets agree to disagree respectfully.
~eIndia Moderator
Hi Mr eIndia,
I totally agree that a certain amount of moderation and filtering is needed in such a forum. I wish you all the best of luck in your endeavours.
Jai Hind
All I can say is u can expect even worse from these guys dear eIndia moderator.
These guys hail from such dirty background so that is what will be the result.
All they are suggesting is that u moderate and filter out the damage (in terms of exposure of their corrupt practices) and not the bad lingo they used to instigate a bad mouthing war here
Take care
Hi Truth_Sayer & eindia moderator,
These guys have started macking mockery of your other boards.
The idea so that no one ever takes your site seriously so that the exposure of these guys can be minimized.
Will seriously request you to Block the comments coming from Anonymous & Nitin Kakkar, IIMB here. You will find they are from Apollo Health Street’s IP Address.
Once again expressing personal apologies for the behaviour and inconvenience caused by behavior of these guys due to my and my friend’s writing about the truth of these guys.
I can very well see the way they are trying to stop the truth, I will not be surprised if they do something even more dirty very soon.
Fervent Appeal to eIndia Moderator
Dear Sir, I am the true Nitin Kakkar and had done my MBA from IIM, B. I feel totally ashamed and disgusted the way some mischiveous people have abused my name and privacy at such a decent and open forum as yours. It is my urgent appeal and request to you to keep the good Spirit of your esteem forum, please delete all mails written under Apollo Health Street due to the foll. reason:
I am already going through a lot of mental trauma after falling down the stairs and breaking my leg at home
1) Both pro and anti AHS people do not at all represent me as I never write any abuses or filthy words as these people have used
2) These mails were also fraudentlly forwarded to Sr. Mgmt. and HR at Accenture posing all sorts of problems to me
3) Not only this has posed problems for me at Accenture but now when I am applying to other companies also it could pose a threat to my acceptance because most employers are doing google search before accepting my resume
4) I was raised in a poor family where my father was just but an ordinary sweeper with municipality and now that I have achieved success, I do not wish to get into all sorts of problems
5) I am extremely sorry to all my ex-colleagues at Apollo especially
* Vinit, Sree, Namit, Divya, Shanti
whose names have been misuesed fraudently by someone using my name. Dadas I am really sorry for causing any inconvenience to you all. Pls maaf karna.
6) I also feel sorry for people writing bad comments for Apollo for no reason, but since I do not wish to get into arguments with them - I would only say pls reflect carefully of what you write
7) I also feel sorry for bringing disrepute to IIM, B which is the second best ranked IIM after IIM, C
9) Again my regards to eIndia Moderator and request to either remove Apollo Health Street as a subsection or remove all the mails under them
Namit, Sree, Divya & Vinit (& even ISB grad’s there!!!)
Using & changing names like Nitin’s and then True Nitin’s will not help you fool any one.
We know who you are!!!!!
Why should any one remove the comments here?
This is what I & some others also feel about Apollo based on our experiences on what you & other Senior Management at Apollo did to us all.
It is upto the public to read this and get informed about true colors of Apollo Health Street.
Don’t bother about any one elses jobs or career future, instead bother about your future coz your truth is out .
NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL!!!!
DEAR EINDIA MODERATOR, HOPE U R ABLE TO SEE ALL THE DIRTY TRICKS THESE GUYS ARE TRYING TO PLAY HERE:D
I SOMETIME PITTY THESE EX_CONSUOLTANTS FROM MCK, DELOITTE etc & THEIR FLUNKEES FROM APOLLO HEATLH STREET.
Amen! (or Jai Hind!!! in whatever way you want god is same and views everybody with one eye!!!)
Dear eindia moderator
Pls refer to my comment a few days back, these guys are at it once again.
Guys at least have some morality & good behavior, even in your fake apology letter, you are down right acting like dirt of world.
Learn to disagree respectfully and not by trying to rake up dirt here and there on anyone you feel like.
As I said in my previous comments, u are incorrigible & uncorrectable.
As someone said, a Dog’s Tail always remains curled even after 24 years unders stone. So is the case with you.
There is nothing else left to be proven here.
The writing is there on the wall, its you guys from Apollo’s top & so-called top management who are exposed here and not Nitin or any one else.
Dada’s sudhar jaao before its too late!!!! And Better late than never
Chill Maadi
Hi Nitin,
Your behavior on the net has been extremely childish and all the false lies that you have tried to fabricate about only shows what a pathetic mental state of mind you are in. Even a 1 year child will have more maturity than you.
Jai Hind
I fully agree with you that the person Nitin Kakkar, IIMB on this board is really a liar and does not have a maturity of a 1 year old.
Thats why mate the comments from others on these board are bang on!!!
AHSL Folks (esp VS and the so called True Real Nitin Kakkar & Nitin Kakkar,IIMB), I am really amazed at your immature thought process levels.
First u don’t have the guts to write using your true name, u use u’r ex-employee’s name, defame him and his family using choicest of abuses, and then u claim that he is childish on the net!!!
Really, I must congratulate on your hypothesis ,logic and modus operandi used to confuse people about AHSL.
(Well that is what will be expected from employees at AHSL.
If u r not able to get any better job dude, do let me know. Don’t pent ur held up frustration on this e-board)
It really shows a very bad side about u and ur current organization!!!!
TO ALL FOLKS COMMENTING ON THIS POST
~eIndia Moderator
AHSL Folks are not professional as we can all tell by this string itself .
Ex-Employeess/Assocaites have seem to been given the shaft in one way or another. People are not just mad they seem to be boiling mad!
Apollo needs to pacify and prevent posts like this by acting honorbly as they are the entity with most to lose here.
The company needs to act professionaly as it is a apremier organziation in inda. We wish that it grows into what it should be. And clients,employees partners are treated respectfully in the future.
Regards
Red Red Rowdy
Dear Rowdy,
Your wish list is very idealistic. This is what all of us would aspire from companies like AHSL and their parent group.
But as others pointed correctly, this is the truth of most of family run businesses in India.
Even we in US are typically very scared to do business with such run of the mill firms for precisely the reasons coming out of this post.
If the ex- & current employees/partners of the firm are unhapppy then how can the clients of such firms be happy?
Well Healthcare IT & Business Process Outsourcing will surely increase in US & in other western nations due to priority on cost containment. Rest all suffer as many people on this board have
This is where the dangers of doing business with firms like AHSL increase thereby increasing the tendency of such fly by night operators to open shops, run a business, scale it using High Networth Indiv money & finally sell it of to make quick bucks.
The only gainers are the family owners of the business and select few management of such firms. Re
This is amazing!!!! Never seen a company taken to the cleaners and so viscious at that….somebody has got to give some credit for even starting something like AHS. Its about the confidence you have to go and set the record out in the open. I think AHS has done a reasonable job in terms of scaling up and being a competent force in the US market……whoso ever needs to get the credit.
I strongly believe that the anti AHS views expressed on this website are totally malicious and without cause. Everyone at AHS knows that Nitin Kakkar was not only extremely poor in his work but was actually thrown out of AHS for his extremely notorious extra marital affairs with a 40 year old female at AHS. Further I also strongly feel that the moderator of this website is hand in glove with Nitin and is totally biased.
The views expressed by Moderator on AHS are also malicious, making me feel strongly that the moderator is a friend of Nitin. As a moderator it is your first duty to be impartial.
never heard of a bigger storm in a tea cup!!
its common knowledge that the parties that the “top management” has ON WORKING DAYS and DURING WORKING HOURS are really something else… booze, babes, grass… hashish, they are an integral part. What saddens me more than anything else is the sheer disregard for ethics and the blatant misuse of power. Allegations apart, I do know that AHSL days are numbered, though I can’t prove what I am saying, every employee of Apollo knows that what I have said is true.
Gross mismanagement of a company that started off well and the bleeding dry of a perfectly viable organization. I wonder at times if the “Laalas” under discussion are really so blind or are they using the AHSL operations to mask their own money laundering operations….. Several instances of NA, DS, SB, AC running off to the US on a few hours notice simply to placate a client who could have been sensitised by tackling issues well in time. Gross mismanagement of time, money and the company itself.
Simply playing with the lives of 1500+ employees but then, who cares if 1500 families are drowned in their own tears… what matters is that the pound of flesh must be exacted and every available drop of blood be spilt!!
Dear AHS_Patriot,
Thanks for reading eIndia. Although I feel that replying to your comment would be propagating your somewhat ridiculous accusation, I’m still obliged to do so out of my own integrity.
eIndia has no preference or association for/against AHSL in any way. The fact that this website focuses on much, much more than just AHSL should prove that beyond doubt. Geez… I dont even know if there is a Nitin Kakkar out there for real.
All I do to “moderate” these comments is take out profanity and keep them relevant. AHSL is the only post where I’ve had to do this multiple times. If you still want to stick to a conspiracy theory, there is no ultimate proof that I can present to you.
~eIndia Moderator
enuff of name calling guys
Someone has been too rude by calling them the “Laalas” such a disgrace for “Laalas”…ne ways as per me this organization runs like the baniya ki dukaan or a sidey tea stall or paan wala at the corner of your lane.
If u ask them chai me elaichi hai??
Haan saab mast elaichi mar kar hai …
u say to phir nahi chaiye……..
aare aapki chai me saab nahi hai saab bilkul nahi hai…
it’s the same thing here……..in a slightly sophisticated manner.
being an ex employee of ne other company never felt this good
In most cases as of higher management has no clue of what the process is all about.
The management only knows what the data needs to show which need not necessarily mean the data actually implies that or not.
You don’t create reports to check if you have met targets….. here you create reports so that they meet targets.
Most managers not all though need their agents to draft their mails n edit it for them.
The so called Top business school Managements gurus can’t manage to speak a straight line in English… n they will give u gyan on VANC n how handle calls. Clients refuse to speak to these people they need their managers/team leads & agents here to communicate n get beaten by the clients for the flaws in the system/process.
This is my only instance when I have actually seen management manipulate information. n have also come across clients stating the same in the unedited emails forwards.
A high degree of carelessness is shown at all levels till you are moved from the pan to the fire.
Oh of course “the VANC” how can I forget that……that one area which makes a whole of noise in Apollo wonder if actually ne work happens there worth the noise?
Here I have seen people misuse power to settle personal scores.
It’s a circus being run.
Request irrelevant comments like no. 61 to be moderated.
This is not a forum for maligning individual persons be it eindia moderator or Nitin Kakkar (Geez… who is this person… definitely created a lot of trouble for AHSL top management folks!!!)
The good thing about Apollo healthstree and the reason I was there is that they have sat & sun as weekley off.If you have some friends in the he support ur work gets done faster just like a government office so basicaly ur getting a good sal for working in a government office so play the dirty game of politics if u want to survivr there …..
1)Just for every ones information national holidays are not considered as com off or paid for..
2)Pleople get promoted when the process goes back for their mistakes..(mind u there is not rule of 18month for the chosen one by Vinit _S)
3)They tell pleople that they are prometed but the letter states just a transffer as a Sr executive - Team Leader ….
4)AM letter state Team Leater - AM ask them about it and they will tell u r a Sr Exe playing the role of a team Lead so in an apprasial I sould be scored on what parameters….
Dear Mr Sehgal, Agarwal, Tayi & your esteemed “chamcha” Vineet_S,
Are you happy with the outcome now that more and more of the current & ex-employees of AHSL are writing such beautiful songs about your praise on this site?
I bet you, you would still say “Garv se kaho Jai Hind or Apollo Pyara hai”.
The reason is pretty simple coz no body else would pick up your ever fatter pay-cheques and that too without any deliverables!!!!
Trust people on this board and even within (both below and above you!!!) AHSL know you too well.
Why do you want your image to take such a big beating in public domain?
So in the end who is a bigger fool you or ????
TA DA, Bon Voyage on your Journey to Hell
hey all SMT’s who have been commenting against AHSL - i guess you guys are the real indians, who care about your people who work at the most pathetic ahsl. hats off to u. apollo’s smt’s( corrupt one’s) are the worst mamagers to wrk with. they will keep on increasing thier designations and slary but do not pay to those who work 18 hrs a day. in teh end all they say is - boss ka decision hai.kya kar sakte hain .
and yes, i dont know who u guys are ( against apollo) - but i know whatever u said against ahsl is TRUTH.
and yes - JAI HIND
and guys lets all take ahsl’s SMT’s peace away.
PIC_Apollo - June 4, 2007- i can vouch for your comment.anyone wants to know more abt mal-practices here. contact me
Hey Xyz, can you throw some more light on the malpractices at AHSL. I am considering taking up an offer from this firm. Came across this site while doing a search on web for AHSL
Tx in advce
Indian
hey indian don’t teake an ofer from this firm. as you can see from other comments all apollo SMT’s (corrupt one’s) are intereted in are making money for themselves.
People like Vineet Srivastava are (another apollo SMT - corrupt one) promoted regularly and they in turn only promote guys who ****edited out by eIndia****
The IT support people will not support you in any of your daily operations and demand cuts (in form of cash in kind) to do work for you.
guys people at ahsl are ****edited out by eIndia****. so basically respectable guys like - Truth_Sayer - March 1, 2007 , Haryana_ka_Chora - April 23, 2007 , and people like us - never get promoted. also promotion is given to people who have only proven what they are good at - presenting themselves as the best and good at doing nothing . And yes - Inquisitive Indian - June 19, 2007 - the above answer is right. the following are the examples of mal practices:-
1- If u are promoted as a Team Leader - your papers says u r a Sr executive , with a functional role of Team Leader. Also u do not become a TL when it is announced but after 6 months with the present date, when u get the papers( and u lose your 6 months experience as TL). GOD!!! gimme 1 freakin reason why dont they give the papers with proper desig and date? how do they lose if a TL is called a TL?****edited out by eIndia****
2- You are given the work which has to be done at your next level. So basically if u r an AM , you have to play 2 roles - AM and Manager ops. Now u end up doing your work along with other responsibilities. Thats fine. we are all ready to do it. but when the time of appraisal comes - these guys come back to us and say that u were supposed to perform only at ur level and they dont care abt the additional work - which is still ok- but then ****edited out by eIndia****, cant u just understand that we are also human, and ****edited out by eIndia****, we also need motivation and respect and benifit . u get ur work done and blame us for all mistakes and donot appreciate for the good work/
3. Mr NA is the real ****edited out by eIndia****
4. Anything and everything written abt these guys character is 200% correct and all know that.
5. Drugs is one very common thing in ahsl. so beware.
6. even managers at middle level are into big time politics. M/s PP ,Dm is a known egoist and enjoys playing with people’s careers.she will plan and bog down others without any reason and promote/ get promoted her much LOVED GUYS.
i guess that shud be sufficient. if need further help feel free to revert to xyz or myself.
The best service we can do it to point this link to every prospective customer of AHSL to let them make a very informed decision about what they are entering into.
Btw, AHSL ranks a poor 19th out of total 20 vendors in the world offering BPO services in Healthcare (Source: Blackbook of outsourcing 2007)
Ciao
and yes some of the reasons mentioned there for low ranking in that article are the same ones mentioned on this post: low corporate governance control, lack of customer respect, low employee morale/motivation leading to poor performance for customer deliverables and hence the low ranking
Ciao
AHS one of the biggest BPOs which deals with US health care. A firm, which has almost 1700 hard working employees working round the clock to see growth for the company, of the company and by the company. This is on the employee end.
“AHS employees work on world class practices, which help them hone their skills and increase their potential. Almost every employee, who has been with AHS for more than three years, has undergone international assignments to his/her credit” (Refer to http://www.apollohealthstreet.com, current openings)
Apollo Health Street - One of the top ten healthcare companies.
What about the list of the top 10 companies which stand high on corruption and disastrous management?
For sure AHS is one of the most ridiculed and decidedly fraudulent organization which is hell bent on minting $$ at the expense of mentally challenged businessmen who are more than willing to out source their business, post the outrageously awful presentations of the rickety BD team.
After business is got with the painstaking effort of the brain dead BD Team,OPS takes a hit as a result of the screwed decision making of the good for nothing AVP’s, all tall talk and no work SM’s along with the ubiquitous COO who essentially believes in having his short fingers stuck in massive files only to rot beyond recognition.
I Definetly agree to all the comments posted by Truth Sayer,Hariyana and rest of them…
AHSL, indeed is an organisation which will teach you “ki insaan kitna gir sakta hai.”
the entire top managment of AHSL is a great disaster and disgrace to human race.
Its because of their behaviour. No one has a right to treat any person as a dirt. Respect emplyees please AHSL.
OR
You will loose your left identity very soon.
Inspite of going thru the comments posted here you people just don’t seem to understand the gravity of situation here..
you have done wrong things admit it! NOT TO US BUT TO URSELF AND LIVE A GOOD LIFE HENCEFORTH! SO THAT YOU DON’T FEEL ASHAMED WHEN YOU LOOK INTO THE MIRROR.
THATS ALL!!
MAY GOD BLESS YOU BRAINS!!
X-EMPLOYEE AHSL.
This is a remarkable series of postings. As the moderator indicated in the February post, anonymity sometimes encourages abuse of freedom of speech. To avoid being anonymous, my name is Roger Davis and I have worked in US Healthcare for over 30 years. During that time, I have negotiated contracts on two occassions with AHS as a company and several of the management individuals named in the series. My impressions from that experience and observations of these postings are as follows:
1 - AHS management was active in representing the company and did a credible job of negotiating fair and mutually beneficial contracts. At no time during these interactions was there any hint nor reference to anything that approached impropriety.
2 - The quality of the work done by AHS under these contracts exceeded industry standards and demonstrated value far in excess of any wage arbitrage.
3 - AHS management was very active in promoting international experience for its employees and appeared to have a commitment to quality work.
4 - Finally, I don’t know the everyday workings of the company nor how management interacts with staff. What I am certain of is that ex-employees from any business are always angry and management never gets everything right. In my specific interactions with AHS, I believe that the current mangement including Divya, Namit and others are good business people with whom I would contract for services again.
To those posting on this site, both negative and postive, I suggest that if your feelings and perceptions are real then you should be also. Put your real name on your posting and take responsiblity for what you say. If you can’t do that, say nothing. If the grieviences you state are real, they are legally actionable. Take those steps, in the open and with personal ownership.
To the moderator: thank you for the opportunity to post.
Roger Davis
Dear Roger,
Thanks for the candid message… very well written. I appreciate your name disclosure- hope other folks follow it in future. My job is to provide a platform for opinions, but I agree that readers should take ownership of what they write.
Best,
~eIndia Moderator
Dear Roger & eIndia,
Agree totally with your points on names usage etc.
Couple of quick points on them:
1.) Some of the names like Nitin Kakkar, Real True Nitin Kakkar on this post have been used as fake by Mr Namit Agarwal & Mr Divya Sehgal ( can’t give you exact proof but can tell you as these guys were very upset when this person left AHSL because of their misdeeds!)
2.) Your experience might be good as you were on the other side of the table and also you are in US where law is very strong. All the comments on this post are from Indian employees of AHSL. India is a totally different ball game from a law view point (even in employer employee relationship). You might want to crosscheck with some Indian friends of yours who have worked in India
Roger
Why are you against employees posting there grouses on this forum?
Also, who told you so that ex employees are always angry. Is this based on your experience?
Please don’t act so biased in your observations.
The beauty of this fora is to allow every one to express their opinions.
Lets not try to curb that (Right Sree, Namit, Divya & Arnab!!!)
I TELL YOU GUYS THIS ROGER AND BORIS IS AGAIN A SELF CREATED NAME BY LOVELY AHSL.
GOD BLESS THEIR SOULS!!!!!!!
Hi Roger
Dont know whether u exist for real in this world. Howver, if you do please read the black book of outsourcing for 2007 for Healthcare Payers.
The points made there about AHSL seem to be totally contradictory to your experience.
Given the fact that the Blackbook of Outsourcing is a credible document (you might like to debate that too!!!!), don’t know what credibility do points mentioned in praise about AHSL carry?
Dear Eindia Moderator,
This is another way these people (from AHSL Top Management) are trying to fool/lull you as well as other people (importantly their so called prospective customers in US) who are no more interested in doing business with such a fidgety and corrupt firm
Thanks for allowing this post
From my personal experience at the supposedly esteemed organisation named AHS
1. The management follows an awful practice of ‘USE N THROW’
2. The show is run by the big wigs of the society.
3. They show the attitude of ‘Mujse Panga’??? So even if you wanna fight against them.. God bless you !!
4. The so called Top management never get the ground reality of whats happening on the operations floor. Its like the saying ‘You can wake up some one who’s sleeping but you can never someone who is acting asleep’
5. All in all, Its a great learning experience as to how not an idle boss ought to be, how not a management system should work, how not employees are to be treated etc etc..
AND FOR ALL THOSE OF YOU WHO MENTION THAT EX-EMPLOYEES HAVE ANGUISH ABOUT THEIR COMPANY - I BEG TO DIFFER - I HAVE GREAT REVERENCE AND ADORATION TO MY PREVIOUS COMPANIES WHERE I WORKED. I STILL WOULD JUMP AT AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN THEM.. BUT AHS??? NEVER EVER.. I WOULD RATHER GIVE UP MY LIFE THAN… U KNOW WHAT….
Thanks Rogers for coming out and saying what is right.
Cheers Man!!!!!
**False Posting**Hi Sree, But I know for sure from these posts here, your employees/ex-employees are not being treated well. And no firm can ever be successful on these factors. So better watchout for your acts in future. Thanks for allowing this one as well**False Posting**
Post #87 above has forced me to take drastic measures. The person who wrote #87 used a false name, and I’m not going to allow that anymore. This person (who has posted under Truth_Sayer, Haryana_ka-Chora, Boris_Becker, xyz etc in the past) has been blocked forever from commenting on eIndia.
~eIndia Moderator
So Apollo Health Street does a couple of Acqusitions (Zavata & Armanti) and plans to go for an IPO in 2008.
Well some of the comments posted (regarding routes adopted by Indian business families to make hay while India Shining Story is on a song) here seem to be too good to be true.
This needs to be definitely explored through valid legal options in India by SEBI and other regulators in India.
Does some one can given idea about the Platform engineering department in AHS in Dlhi IT park, Shastri park, Delhi
the whole discussion here has been interesting one for me to read through :)) comments both for and against. I am just trying to understand is AHS a software company or it is an offshoot. As far as I understand for a hospital group its core competency lies in running and managing healthcare facilities. Not IT. There can never be a FOCUS for IT in a healthcare provider. Similarly an IT company can’t run a Hospital or a medical center. That’s where the problem lies….
btw, is AHS only into BPO services or also into IT solutions in Healthcare?
AHS is into BPO as well as IT services in Healthcare.
The Problem being discussed on this board is not that of core competence as you are suggesting.
It is of corporate governance and ethical standards in Indian Corporate Sector
You will appreciate these more once you start working/experiencing corporate environment in India and abroad (may be).
phew….! that was really a lot of reading..I am an x employee of AHSL. Although worked only for six months, and I understand that I do not have much of microscopic view on these allegations posted.But before I read all these, I have heard of similliar cases during many coffee chats.
and to some extend, some were true.
Drugs is like loli-pops in AHSL. I have seen atleast 5 out of 10, smoking grass during the working hrs, which is basically night, which also includes the top management. I have seen a gentlemen from the top management doping grass, although I do not like to disclose the name.
Has seen the worst payroll system ever in my entire proffessional life cycle.the guys sitting at the payroll act as if they are doing a favour by giving me my salary.It took 3 months for them to open an account for me. the funniest part is the way they talk to you.
I joined this company just for the pocket money as I was waiting for some paper works to be finished to leave the country, which I have. And I also do not agree that every x employee has a bad reputation abt his company. I DO NOT.(except for AHSL).
“IT DOES NOT STINK WITHOUT A ROT”
Hi All,
Thanks for sharing the thoughts.I just offered to lead the AHS in hyd as senior management and I believe will be part of all those names mentioned in the above post.
Would like to know if I should consider this offer or just let it go
Dear xxx (?Azim),
Thanks for the comment. Unfortunately, I can’t endorse or confirm the comments made here. All that eIndia provides is a reason and forum for readers to discuss topics.
If you decide to join AHSL, perhaps you can help other readers by coming back and posting a comment about your experience.
Best,
~eIndia Moderator
To —Truth_Sayer and everyone in this forum,
Can u pls email me ur email and contact information and I will speak u in personal about AHSL. I am an applicant and would like to know more about company .I am moving from banglore for this company and want to know if there is any sort of risk.
Azim lala
azimlala@live.com
Finally managed to get rid of this goddammed organization. Had become part of this idiotic firm after my firm was acquired by this company. The top management of this company is indeed full or corrupt people who are just banking on making a quick buck in the forthcoming IPO of the company. Pls do not buy shares of this company. There seems to have been a 100% attrition in the top managment (top managment minus divya, sree, namit and vinit(middle managment)). Never join this company it is full of bullshit.
lala u can get in touch with me at:
alibabaaurchaalischor@rediffmail.com to learn more about this company before you leave bangalore and destroy your career.
http://www.livemint.com/2008/04/16000038/Apollo-Health-Street-blames-Ba.html?d=1
Njoy the stupidity of Apollo Health Street Top Management.
Btw there is another article in Indian Media which reports of Apollo Health CEO getting Arrested for Cheating a business partner
Cheerio
The Implementation Head does not no ABC’s of Healthcare, He’s a Pharma distributor in Gujarat.
Hi Folks,
I do understand that our finance team made in the exotic options, hence I have sacked our CFO. I also sacked 2 quality heads in the last 2 months and many other senior and middle management staff. We do take corrective action when required. Further with the downturn in market I find many of our old staff re applying to us and wanting to join my company back. This clearly indicates that all what has been said on this forum is untrue.
Sacking the poor CFO !!!! Ooh la la.
For what - the exotic options? or in reality the fact that he could not get the IPO as promised (Q2 Fy 08-09;))so that you and the Apollo promoters could make merry in India shining story?
Well the Indian and global equity market isn’t gonna recover anytime soon so Mr Sehgal here is wishing you all the best for your dream of making the fool out of Indian Public at large.
And yes regarding your pooh poohing on old staff reapplying, some of them might be doing out of compulsion as they no there are no takers for AHSL so they can go back and atleast get the daily bread.
So again proves the point made on this board by many that AHSL is a shit place to work at.
Prey, did I say much? Did it hurt your sentiments. Dont worry, this site will be no more after January 2009 as per Mr Pallav’s admission on the home page.
Your entire actions are under our watch inside AHSL as well as outside.
Truth never sleeps and will haunt liars like you till eternity
Cheerio
And one more thing….. by your own admission you are saying its “my company” in your message on 24th Sep 2008
A Professional co is never a one man army.
A true leader talk of we and not I or me or my!!!
Just goes to show the “Lala” mentality/mindset someone else talked in this forum.
Just hate to work for such firm and people